Police say Nurin’s parents can be charged for carelessness…
Please read the sickening statement below. It is picked from mSTAR Online.
If this is true that we should also charge the Prime Minister, Home Minister, Transport Minister Defense Minister for all the careless acts of government that have results in deaths. Lets not go too far – National Service Deaths, Bus / Road accidents and so the list goes on. If it wasn’t 1:08 in the morning I really go on with this, but for now just read what our police have to say… then weep for our country!
Polis: Ibu bapa Nurin boleh dituduh cuai
21-09-2007 10:03:02 PM
Oleh SA’ODAH ELIASPUTRAJAYA: Baru beberapa jam selesai mengkebumikan jenazah anak mereka yang meninggal dunia akibat deraan seksual, Jazimin Abdul Jalil dan isterinya Norazian Bistaman kini menghadapi kemungkinan didakwa kerana cuai.
Ketua Polis Negara Tan Sri Musa Hassan berkata polis kini sedang menyiapkan laporan kes berkenaan dan jika mendapati terdapat elemen cuai sehingga menjurus kepada penculikan Nurin Jazlin, ibu bapa mangsa boleh diambil tindakan undang-undang bawah Akta Perlindungan Kanak-kanak.
“Jika ada kecuaian, kita akan cadangkan kepada Peguam Negara agar tindakan undang-undang diambil ke atas mereka,” katanya kepada pemberita selepas menghadiri mesyuarat Suruhanjaya Polis yang dipengerusikan Perdana Menteri Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi di Kementerian Keselamatan Dalam Negeri hari ini.
Musa berkata, peruntukan undang-undang terhadap ibu bapa yang cuai menjaga keselamatan anak mereka telah lama wujud, tetapi belum pernah dikuatkuasakan selama ini.
“Saya rasa sudah sampai masanya untuk kita kuatkuasakan peruntukan itu,” tambahnya.
Beliau juga berkata polis telah membatalkan rancangan mengadakan ujian DNA kali kedua setelah ibu bapa Nurin menerima keputusan ujian pertama semalam yang mengesahkan mayat di dalam beg sukan yang ditemui di Petaling Jaya pada Isnin lalu adalah anak mereka yang hilang selama sebulan.
Tak payah nak susah2 nak amblil tindakan terhadap ibubapa Nurin.
Jangan nak alihkan kesalahan. Memang, ibubapa Nurin cuai tapi bukan bermakna mereka berniat jahat.
Jangan buang masa, walaupun ada peruntukan undang2 untuk tindakan tersebut.
Gunakan masa itu untuk cari pembunuh Nurin.
Cukup lah ibu bapa Nurin menderita…buat apa nak seret mereka ke mahkamah pulak?
Missing and murdered kids are a blot on the nation’s conscience. Can’t blame them for wanting to come down hard on parents now. It’s a directive right from the top. Dollah has woken up and told them to get cracking. He has heard what has been happening to our kids. God knows he doesn’t want the same fate to befall his 10 kids from the replaced Jamnapari goats.
Innocent kid has been brutally murdered, parents charged for negligence, case closed? At least this is my impression on the news in the Star.
Come down hard on parents, ok. But the message must not make the public suspect that the system is not fair. If the public thinks the system is not fair to the citizens, what do you think the public will think of the government and the police?
Sick! Stupid! Incompetence! Does not know its priorities!
I want to vote for another government.
I forgot, can the public sue the police department for negligence in protecting the public?
Surely the serial beasto is not so sicko to do it to Dollah’s 10 Jamnapari kids! Unless he is a pycho ram
Aiyahh Mr IGP, sir. get your priorities right-lah!
Go get Nurin’s the killer(s). If her parents had been negligent, they have been more than punished…they lost a daughter who was brutally murdered by a beast.
Leave the parents alone. They are grieving. Dont you know that? Have you no heart?
Bloody insensitive!!!
Terlalu ramai anggota polis ditugaskan untuk mengawal dan menyelia lalulintas(Polis trafic) kurang penekanan terhadap jenayah .Pada pendapat saya ini lah punca sebenar nya jenayah yang semakain meningkat dinegara kita.Kita tengok saja berapa juta duit rakyat dikutip hasil saman trafik setiap tahun nampak kerajaan lebih berminat mengutip duit saman trafik rakyat dari memfokuskan untuk membenteras masalah jenayah dinegara ini.Angota special branch yangt tidak beruniform hendaklah ditambah untuk mencegah dan mengawal jenayah bukan nya menambah jumlah kereta peronda polis untuk menakut nakutkan penjenayah.Mentaliti Keutamaan untuk menyaman pesalah terafik hendahlah dikaji semula.
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Why don’t they focus on nabbing the culprit first?
Is this a police force that practices “Bersih, Cekap dan Amanah”?
Why are their actions so contradictive? Do they really for once practice what they preach?
Mr Bojangles!
You may have a point. The IGP spoke to reporters “selepas menghadiri mesyuarat Suruhanjaya Polis yang dipengerusikan Perdana Menteri Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi di Kementerian Keselamatan Dalam Negeri”.
I believe that he must have conveyed what he was planning to do the PM. Otherwise, he was conveying to the reporters what he’d been ordered to do by the PM!
Heads must roll. There must be a sacrificial lamb and it’s not going to be the kambings they got to replace the PM’s stolen Jamnapari goats.
The parents will be the lamb.
bro, my apologies for the repeats. something wrong with page just now.
I think it about shifting blame. It’s the easiest way for them to blame it on the parents so it seems as though it is an isolated case rather than a social problem or ill that parents have to worry about. It guarantees that oh it is a one-off case, the parents were bad, not responsible-it won’t happen to you…you are a good parent..notion! Furthermore, elections are coming so let’s blow this issue, let the community get angry not with the person who committed the crime, for its easier to get angry with identified person….for they have not named any possible suspect and its is obvious that they are building a case against the poor parents! I hardly think its because of their over-flowing love and concern for our kids….but then again that’s what I think!
Tuan IGP how about professional negligence under your purview.
We should also sue the police for negligence in pursuing the culprits of all crime commited
PM wanted to see an immediate reduction of crime against children. The simplest and surest way to achieve that is of course by making the parents look after their children 24/7. Then there wont be anymore missing children or sexually abused children unless the parents choose to abuse them themselves.
With near zero crime against children Pm and all the staff and personnel under the Home Ministry can sleep better.
Silhoute, if what you say is true then, what a genius of a PM we have .
On the same token, he can fulfill one of his election promises, that is to wipe out corruption, and he can do that by putting those corrupt people to jail.
Hmmmmm I wonder why that has not happened….??????
What kind of an IGP do we have here? The police have not done a good job in keeping the country safe for its citizens and the IGP is considering charging the parents?
How many times have the police neglected their work and have gotten away buta-buta?
Shameful and disgusting!! The hunt is on the beast/devil psycho, not on the parents. Enough, leave the parents alone.
They have suffered more than words can describe. What they need is justice, IGP!! not your blaming game again for the incompetency of the police force. Where’s your heart???
Mindless twits.
Supreme lack of any common cow sense.
Solve the case first lah.
The public is waiting for results.
POLIS OH POLIS OF MSIA
u nak saman ibu bapak si nurin. u wake up lah…ASAL BOLEH
u got no lead no evidence no GUTS – MOST OF ALL NO B..L
that is what this msian police abt….
pertama
THE KILLER LEFT THE BAG AT PJ – NOW WHY MUST THEY DO THAT? VERY OBVIOUS – THEY KESIAN KAT POLIS MSIA – PASAL
NANTI TAK JUMPA MAYAT NURIN SAMPAI BILA BILA – SO DIA ORANG KASI KERJA SENANG SIKIT LAH – kalau tidak kan buang masa polis aje. so dia duk tengok drama polis kat msia..
DAH TU KE DUA….
DAH DAPAT JUMPA mayat – MASIH TAK DAPAT CLUE LAGI KE…
SI PEMBUNUH TENGAH MAKAN KUACI GELI HATI TENGOK HO HA HO HA HO HA PASAL KES NI TAK KAN SUDAH
DAH TU KE TIGA
KATALAH DAPAT TANGKAP – APA MSIA GOVERNMENT LAW DGN POLIS BUAT…MASUK JAIL ADALAH FEW YRS, STROKE ADALAH FEW TIMES, MAKAN – OH CUKUP…DALAM JAIL SEMUA ADA APA
DAH TU LAST SEKALI
PEROGOL TU KELUAR SENYUM….DAPAT TENGOK LAGI DUNIA LUA
DAPAT ROGOL LAGI – YALAH BAK KATA KAT JAIL LAMA TAK DAPAT – SO BAHAM AJELAH APA YANG DAPAT KAT LUAR TU
SO APA YG AWAK NAK BUAT NI POLIS????
U NI KELAKAR LAH – KALAU ANAK I JADI MACAM NI, DAH TU U SAMAN I – PASAL TAK JAGA ANAK DGN BETUL KATA AWAK
TAPI I SAMAN SATU GOVERMENT U BALIK – KATA U ORANG TAK TAU JAGA NEGARA…
BEST WORD – MALAYSIA BOLEH – AKU PUN BOLEH APA!
dari sal seberang laut – i suggest u read more abt my mails which i posted out especially on the polis msia. yg ada ho ha ho ha tu i lah… I DONT KNOW Y I JUST HATE the msia polis
and for the family of beloved Nurin, kita di seberang mendoakan supaya anaknya berada di alam syurga..dan tiada satu kurang pun untuknya di alam itu..dan sesungguhnya ALLAH lebih menyayanginya dari kita dan dengan itulah dia dijemput terlebih dahulu – kita mesti ingat akan qada dan qadar, walau dgn apa sekali pun kematian itu datang menjemput kita kena menerimanya…(I KNOW IT IS EASY TO SAY BUT WHAT TO DO – ALL I CAN SAY ALFATIHAH)
As usual, they would always try to look for other people to put the blame on.
Why can’t the Govt just concentrate in searching for the murderer/s.
That’s what you get, if you have an imbecile leader, the rest will become useless…
Kerana kecuaian ibu bapa nurin yang sibuk melayan tetamu sehingga tidak sedar kehilangan nurin, saya berpendapat bahawa punca kematian adalah disebabkan kecuaian ibu bapanya dan kemudian saya menyalahkan pembunuh.
Jika ibu bapa Nurin lebih bertanggungjawab dalam maksud lebih prihatin ke mana anaknya pergi dan siapa mengikutnya, saya rasa kemungkinan besar nurin dapat di selamatkan. Ibu bapa Nurin tidak sepatutnya memberi andaian bahawa mungkin kakaknya mengikutya ke pasar malam.
Kesalahan paling tidak dapat saya maafkan adalah :
1) membenarkan anak perempuan keluar tanpa pangawasan ibu bapa tidak kisah samada ia berdekatan rumah atau tidak.
2) sunggupun banyak kes penculikan anak yang kita dengar, sebagai ibu bapa kita seharusnya berjaga- jaga.
3) selepas sejam baru mereka sedar nurin tidak ada di rumah. Jika ini tidak di panggil cuai apalagi.
4) IBU BAPANYA TELAH MEMBERI PELUANG KEPADA PENCULIK NURIN UNTUK MENCULIKNYA KERANA KECUAIAN MEREKA.
JANGAN SALAHKAN ORANG LAIN ATAS KELALAIAN KITA YANG MEMBUKA PELUANG ORANG LAIN UNTUK MEMBUAT SALAH.
Saya menangis membaca bagaimana nurin di dera. saya pun ada anak perempuan. Cuba bayangkan anak kita dalan keadaan itu. Saya tak dapat bayangkan pun. Jika ibu-bapa nurin bersikap leih prihatin, pada waktu ini Nurin sedang belajar di dalam kelasnya.
Maafkan saya kalau ada yang tersilap. Tetapi saya tidak dapat memendamkan rasa marah saya. SAYA PUN SEORANG IBU.
KEPADA RAKYAT MALAYSIA,
JANGAN SALAHKAN POLIS KITA ATAS KECUAIAN ORANG LAIN. JANGAN ANGGAP REMEH TERHADAP POLIS NEGARA KITA.
SAYA TEGASKAN DI SINI, BIAR MEREKA BUAT KERJA MEREKA. SAYA PASTI MERAKA AKAN MENANGKAP PEMBUNUH SYAITAN ITU DENGAN SEGERA.
PASTINYA SYAITAN ITU MESTI DIDERA. JANGAN GANTUNGKAN DIA. DERA DIA.
dah bosan dengar pasal tak habis habis salahkan ibu bapa..
masalahnya yg dah pergi tak akan kembali.
saya pun ada anak perempuan berumur 1-1/2 tahun. tiap kali saya baca- air mata mengalir, walhal saya tak kenal nurin pun tapi kita ini manusia dan bila terkenangkan bagaimana tersiksa dikerjakan nurin oleh si laknat terkutuk itu, tipulah saya kata jika tak ada keluar airmata ketika membaca cerita cerita di internet.
Dasar binatang buas. sedangkan anjing pun tau membalas budi tuan. jadi nak samakan haiwan dgn si binatang buas ni pun tak adil.
anyway, everyday we hear “STORY” police going to nab nab nab….police going is getin closer closer closer….
hei hello mr policeman, when u want to get the satan?
Lish,
I hear what you are saying…. and if we follow your logic, that the parents are just a guilty and we do indeed charge then for failing in their duty to protect their child, them we must also extend the same arguments to other matters.
Like if I am forced to send my child for national service due to government policy, and my child dies during national service, then the minister in charged should be held accountable just like Nurin’s paretns.
If I take a bus and I die because the bus crashes. And it crashes because the driver was unfit to drive / or the bus was unfit to be used, then again, the minister should be charged after all he is the ultimate person responsible. I take public transport on the assumption that the services being provided are well regulated for standards and safety.
If I die because a robber killed me in the streets or in my house, then the Home minister must be charged as he has the ultimate responsibility for ensuring that this is a safe country to live in.
As much as we must take personal accountability for our actions, as citizens we must have the confidence that the country we live in is safe and rules are enforced and when people break the rules that are harsh deterrent penalties.
There is an onus on the Government and it’s (famous) public delivery systems to give us rakyat a healthy and safe living environment.
The outrage in Nurin’s case is more a feeling of the rakyaat that the government and its public delivery system is not doign what it should be doing. In the last 7 months there are 319 unsolved missing children cases and since 2004 a total of 6270 missing children cases reported.
We are entitled to safe living and we should use Nurin’s death a a symbol to fix a problem. Blaming the parents will only absolve the government from its responsibility.
Finally, (nauzubillah) image a burgular breaks into your house and rapes you or your daughter. Are you going to blame you husband for not having a secure enough house?
WHERE DO YOU DRAW THE LINE?
i support mindspring…. the parents is sad enough for losing 1 child in the family, eventhough it s real that they are careless but they sacrifice everything, sacrifice for losing a daughter and how nurin’s was killed…government charged under nurin’s parents??? is it government shows they are hurting or they are responsible in this case… come on, none other human can compare the hurt felt by nurin’s parents, is thier own child….
all of u were rite..wut ever ur opinion also rite..being a human.!!! not so easy juz like wut we can say..everybody make mistake..pls do not blame each other..help each other to solve the problem..did u all noe wut was really happened..?did u saw everything..??wut was behind the incident..?this question is not only for the policeman but to all of the world no matter who the hell u are..refresh ur mind..
terima kasih di atas keperihatinan anda terhadap kes arwah adik nurin..semoga rohnya dicucuri rahmat dan ditempatkan dikalangan org2 yg beriman…setiap yg berlaku jadikan panduan dan pengajaran kepada kita semua di masa hadapan..
al-fatihan buat adik nurin..
mindspring,
Anyone forced Nurin’s parents to send Nurin to the Pasar Malam alone without accompany of anyone even her 11 years old sister that are still young enough?
Who is responsible for this? The police? or the parents that shows neglect on the child?
Dak,
You pose a good question and we need to contemplate it as we get closer and closer to Election time.
Let me re-frame the issues a bit:
At what point does one’s responsibility for one’s safety end and at what point does the State’s responsibility for one’s safety begin.(Or at lease the State’s responsibility to provide for a safe living environment)
Remember Cannie Ng? Nobody blamed the police nor did the police blame anyone for her death, not even the car park operator.
How different is Nurin’s case from Cannie? The circumstances are almost the same. Only difference was that Nurin was a kid. Why is this case so much more emotional and why is there so much finger pointing?
How come, in such an emotional situation, the police decided to come out with such a hard line?
If the police wanted to be consistant, and to hold people who are negligent and casue death, then the police need to charge the transport minister & works for all the people who died in bus crashes at the Jelapang toll?
To me Nurin’s case is sad but it is no more sadder then all the other cases where people have died due to declining public safety.
As for Nurin’s parent’s, I am absolutely sure that they must be blaming no one other then themselves…. The hardest thing for any parent to do, is to have to bury your own child!
SAYA SEDIH ATAS PEMERGIAN NURIN.SEMOGA KELUARGA YG BERKAITAN BERSABAR DGN HARAPAN ARWAH DITEMPATKAN DI SYURGA DAN BAHAGIA DISISI ILAHI.